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Just heard the verdict is in. It's to be announced at 2:15

(07-05-2011 01:47 PM)BornAJacket Wrote: [ -> ]Just heard the verdict is in. It's to be announced at 2:15

Acquitted.

(07-05-2011 02:22 PM)davidson deac ii Wrote: [ -> ]Acquitted.

I am in shock - another instance (O.J.) of the prosecutors not getting it done. This was the most emotional I've seen the little witch since this trial started.

(07-05-2011 02:29 PM)Atlantaheel Wrote: [ -> ]I am in shock - another instance (O.J.) of the prosecutors not getting it done. This was the most emotional I've seen the little witch since this trial started.

I didn't watch the trial, but I seriously doubt things are as cut and dry as it seems on CNN or Fox. I do know that we can't judge guilt or innocence based on her emotional response or lack thereof.

The jury didn't get it right. ABSOLUTELY did not get it right.
GUILTY GUILTY GUILTY!!!
She will end up getting killed sooner by being out though. I would bet on it.

I paid as little attention to it as I possibly could, given that it was plastered all over everything, so I have no opinion about the verdict.

(07-05-2011 02:39 PM)davidson deac ii Wrote: [ -> ]I didn't watch the trial, but I seriously doubt things are as cut and dry as it seems on CNN or Fox. I do know that we can't judge guilt or innocence based on her emotional response or lack thereof.

Believe me, I wasn't judging her guilt or innocence by her courtroom demeanor, mainly by the fact there is nobody else to accuse, and it was her behavior before she was arrested that leads me to believe she's guilty. It's all about her, and her tears are all about her. If you heard any taped phone conversations from jail, you know she's not morally fit to have a child. I will say this, you're correct in that it's not cut and dry. Her parents have enabled her behavior, even toward them. I think they know a hell of a lot more than what came out. I wasn't impressed with the prosecution's final argument yesterday. The presentation, in my humble opinion, was weak.

Bella Vita

(07-05-2011 02:57 PM)Atlantaheel Wrote: [ -> ]Believe me, I wasn't judging her guilt or innocence by her courtroom demeanor, mainly by the fact there is nobody else to accuse, and it was her behavior before she was arrested that leads me to believe she's guilty. It's all about her, and her tears are all about her. If you heard any taped phone conversations from jail, you know she's not morally fit to have a child. I will say this, you're correct in that it's not cut and dry. Her parents have enabled her behavior, even toward them. I think they know a hell of a lot more than what came out. I wasn't impressed with the prosecution's final argument yesterday. The presentation, in my humble opinion, was weak.

I think she did it, but does anything you post reach a level of beyond reasonable doubt?

(07-05-2011 03:09 PM)ChrisL68 Wrote: [ -> ]I think she did it, but does anything you post reach a level of beyond reasonable doubt?

Nope. I think the death penalty really did it in. It's really tough to get a guilty verdict without absolute, positive proof. Life in prison would have been the way to go from the beginning.

Ummmm, she wasn't convicted of ANY degree of murder!
Didn't matter whether the death penalty was sought, or not.

Not sure how it works in Florida. Does the jury decide guilt or innocence, and then the judge imposes sentence? Or is the dp mandatory in this case?


Regardless, I can't see how that would impact the jury's decision. Even though I don't believe in the death penalty, that wouldn't stop me from finding someone guilty of first degree murder.

She was acquitted on all charges but lying to police

This is NOT an OJ jury nullification decision but rather a thoughtful and sane response to the evidence presented. There seemed to be reasonable doubt in just about every piece of evidence put before the jury by the DA. A preponderance of circumstantial evidence does not meet the "beyond a reasonable doubt" burden.

What might be the sentence for lying to investigators? Time served?

(07-05-2011 04:38 PM)AllBiz Wrote: [ -> ]Ummmm, she wasn't convicted of ANY degree of murder!
Didn't matter whether the death penalty was sought, or not.

My point was, it's much more difficult to get a guilty verdict when the death penalty is involved. Juries are more prone to finding defendants guilty if they're looking at life instead.

(07-05-2011 06:42 PM)Tagterp Wrote: [ -> ]

She was acquitted on all charges but lying to police

This is NOT an OJ jury nullification decision but rather a thoughtful and sane response to the evidence presented. There seemed to be reasonable doubt in just about every piece of evidence put before the jury by the DA. A preponderance of circumstantial evidence does not meet the "beyond a reasonable doubt" burden.

What might be the sentence for lying to investigators? Time served?

According to a radio report I heard, a year for each count of lying to the police, but "time served" counts here. So maybe as little as a year or so...

(07-05-2011 04:46 PM)davidson deac ii Wrote: [ -> ]Not sure how it works in Florida. Does the jury decide guilt or innocence, and then the judge imposes sentence? Or is the dp mandatory in this case?


Regardless, I can't see how that would impact the jury's decision. Even though I don't believe in the death penalty, that wouldn't stop me from finding someone guilty of first degree murder.

Jury decided guilt or innocence, judge imposes sentence. Don't know if death penalty is mandatory, but I thought that was up to the prosecution to decide if that's what they're going for.

(07-05-2011 08:26 PM)The Ghost of Hessianwolf Wrote: [ -> ]According to a radio report I heard, a year for each count of lying to the police, but "time served" counts here. So maybe as little as a year or so...

The case was so convoluted from the beginning, it was difficult to have substantial evidence. The prosecution seemed to be struggling yesterday, and as far as playing on the emotions of the jury, I don't think they did a good job of it.

(07-05-2011 08:26 PM)The Ghost of Hessianwolf Wrote: [ -> ]According to a radio report I heard, a year for each count of lying to the police, but "time served" counts here. So maybe as little as a year or so...

This jury had atleast four mothers on it. I'd expect them to he the toughest judges with respect to a mom offing her 2 year old daughter. In the final analysis it is tough to prove murder when the autopsy could not determine either the time nor the cause of Caylee's death. Now this bi-polar bimbo cannot be tried for any charge on which she was acquitted regardless of any new evidence, admissions, etc. The DA needs to clean out his Office.

- "The Nanny took her!" No Nanny existed.
- 31 days to report a missing child.
- Didn't tell a soul about the baby's disappearance.
- Looking up chloroform.
- Looking up 'how to break a neck".
- Fake boyfriend.
- Smell of death coming from car.
- Cadaver dog.
- Threw Dad AND brother under the bus with phony, unsubstantiated sexual abuse allegations.


At the risk of sounding like a pre-menstral Nancy Grace, the girl killed her kid. Going to get away with it....For now.

(07-06-2011 08:55 AM)AllBiz Wrote: [ -> ]- "The Nanny took her!" No Nanny existed.
- 31 days to report a missing child.
- Didn't tell a soul about the baby's disappearance.
- Looking up chloroform.
- Looking up 'how to break a neck".
- Fake boyfriend.
- Smell of death coming from car.
- Cadaver dog.
- Threw Dad AND brother under the bus with phony, unsubstantiated sexual abuse allegations.


At the risk of sounding like a pre-menstral Nancy Grace, the girl killed her kid. Going to get away with it....For now.

LOL about Nancy Grace, one I totally despise.

(07-06-2011 08:55 AM)AllBiz Wrote: [ -> ]- "The Nanny took her!" No Nanny existed.
- 31 days to report a missing child.
- Didn't tell a soul about the baby's disappearance.
- Looking up chloroform.
- Looking up 'how to break a neck".
- Fake boyfriend.
- Smell of death coming from car.
- Cadaver dog.
- Threw Dad AND brother under the bus with phony, unsubstantiated sexual abuse allegations.


At the risk of sounding like a pre-menstral Nancy Grace, the girl killed her kid. Going to get away with it....For now.

Convicted of not being able to utter a single true statement to investigators. Couple this with her mulitple defenses and it does not take a whole lot of common sense to know this disgusting skank is guilty as sin.

(07-06-2011 10:05 AM)Denverpacker Wrote: [ -> ]Convicted of not being able to utter a single true statement to investigators. Couple this with her mulitple defenses and it does not take a whole lot of common sense to know this disgusting skank is guilty as sin.

What's interesting is we know the prosecution really didn't have the evidence to make this a slam dunk, but there certainly have been convictions on circumstantial evidence in the past. Look at the Scott Peterson case a few years ago. That was another one that, in no doubt, got rid of his wife, but hard evidence was impossible to come by. BUT, the jury convicted him anyway. Didn't he get life in prison though?

Since the defense stated that Casey knew Caylee was not "missing" the Texas group which spent over $100,000 dollars in the search for the child is going to sue her for all their expenses.

The crying shame is that this skank will probably be set for life over all of this. You know Lifetime will throw a huge movie deal at her. She will make the crying, sobbing woe is me talk circuit pulling in dollars. Rich dudes will support her for a time to say they boinked her slutty ***.

I truly wish society would reject her, but I see just the opposite happening.

Innocent until proven guilty beyond reasonable doubt. A member of the jury has put it well:

"I did not say she was innocent," said Ford, previously identified only as Juror No. 3. "I just said there was not enough evidence. If you cannot prove what the crime was, you cannot determine what the punishment should be."

And, for sure, there was no evidence to connect Anthony with the death of her daughter..... beyond reasonable doubt. If there had been as much as a finger print on the tape, the verdict might have been different. Personally, I thing Anthony was very lucky.