Here in the DC area, we get C-SPAN radio, which is great.
Other than that, I usually listen to NPR, which has a strong leftward bias, but much less so than it used to, and which generally has very interesting and informative programming(other than Diane Rehm, who should have retired long, long ago).
Commercial viability requires mass appeal. Quality and/or alternative view programming have a hard row to hoe. NPR survives with assistance: it makes a good case for public support of non-commercial alternatives.
(01-22-2010 03:26 AM)jws Wrote: [ -> ]Here in the DC area, we get C-SPAN radio, which is great.
Other than that, I usually listen to NPR, which has a strong leftward bias, but much less so than it used to, and which generally has very interesting and informative programming(other than Diane Rehm, who should have retired long, long ago).
This post made me smile. I have a lefty friend with buyer's remorse on Obama that I call and leave voice mails in Diane Reem's voice. It's always edgy and timely for whatever is happening while exaggerating her sickeningness. I get responses every time I do it. I'm sure we both get a smile out of it.
(01-22-2010 06:00 AM)Tenmile Wrote: [ -> ]Commercial viability requires mass appeal. Quality and/or alternative view programming have a hard row to hoe. NPR survives with assistance: it makes a good case for public support of non-commercial alternatives.
Yeah. We've got plenty of folding money for that, too. NPR on 10 stations across eastern carolina.
I enjoy NPR as well. I'm glad I'm not the only one that senses they're not as liberal as they used to be.
As for Air America, I'm sure both of their listeners will be crushed. Maybe Al Franken too.
You mean Airhead America (as Bill O'Reilly affectionately called it)is gone? Rats. Guess this means I can't listen to Randi Rhodes any more, who I found incredibly entertaining!
(01-22-2010 06:00 AM)Tenmile Wrote: [ -> ]Commercial viability requires mass appeal. Quality and/or alternative view programming have a hard row to hoe.
Quality and mass appeal are not mutually exclusive.
Quote: NPR survives with assistance: it makes a good case for public support of non-commercial alternatives.
Disagree. I think NPR would not only survive, but thrive without government "assistance", but if it couldn't, it should fail like any other enterprise.
Government has no business sticking it's nose into media programming.
(01-22-2010 06:00 AM)Tenmile Wrote: [ -> ]Commercial viability requires mass appeal. Quality and/or alternative view programming have a hard row to hoe. NPR survives with assistance: it makes a good case for public support of non-commercial alternatives.
NPR is exactly why tax dollars should not be used to prop commercially unsuccessful media. I also notice it is always left leaning media with their hands out begging for support. People obviously do not want to support this agendized media so they fail as they should.
Air america went under because unlike conservatism, liberalism does not have mainstream, grassroots appeal.
(01-22-2010 09:43 AM)marsbennett Wrote: [ -> ] (01-22-2010 03:26 AM)jws Wrote: [ -> ]Here in the DC area, we get C-SPAN radio, which is great.
Other than that, I usually listen to NPR, which has a strong leftward bias, but much less so than it used to, and which generally has very interesting and informative programming(other than Diane Rehm, who should have retired long, long ago).
This post made me smile. I have a lefty friend with buyer's remorse on Obama that I call and leave voice mails in Diane Reem's voice. It's always edgy and timely for whatever is happening while exaggerating her sickeningness. I get responses every time I do it. I'm sure we both get a smile out of it.
"She has Spasmodic Dysphonia, a disease of the larynx which causes involuntary spasms of the muscles in the throat and larynx."
You generally seem kinder than that mars.
I've got no problem with her voice. Her show is just awful.
(01-22-2010 01:40 PM)Tagterp Wrote: [ -> ]NPR is exactly why tax dollars should not be used to prop commercially unsuccessful media. I also notice it is always left leaning media with their hands out begging for support. People obviously do not want to support this agendized media so they fail as they should.
Studies show NPR neither left or right biased
Quote:Allegations of conservative bias
In a December 2005 column run by NPR ombudsman and former Vice President Jeffrey Dvorkin, allegations that NPR relies heavily on conservative think-tanks[23] were denied. In his column, Dvorkin listed the number of times NPR had cited experts from conservative and liberal think tanks in the previous year as evidence. However, according to MediaMatters, a progressive media group, the numbers he reported indicate an overwhelmingly conservative bias. His own tally showed that 63% of NPR experts from think tanks came from right-leaning organizations while only 37% came from left-leaning organizations.[24]
In 2003, some critics accused NPR of being supportive of the invasion of Iraq.[25][26]
[edit] Allegations of liberal bias
A study conducted by researchers at UCLA and the University of Missouri found that while NPR is "often cited by conservatives as an egregious example of a liberal news outlet", "[b]y our estimate, NPR hardly differs from the average mainstream news outlet. Its score is approximately equal to those of Time, Newsweek and U.S. News & World Report and its score is slightly more conservative than The Washington Post's."[27] It did find NPR to be more liberal than the average U.S. voter of the time of the study and more conservative than the average U.S. Democrat of the time. Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting, a progressive media watchdog group,[28] also disputes the claim of a liberal bias.[29]
(01-22-2010 02:39 PM)NCTM Wrote: [ -> ] (01-22-2010 01:40 PM)Tagterp Wrote: [ -> ]NPR is exactly why tax dollars should not be used to prop commercially unsuccessful media. I also notice it is always left leaning media with their hands out begging for support. People obviously do not want to support this agendized media so they fail as they should.
Studies show NPR neither left or right biased
Quote:Allegations of conservative bias
In a December 2005 column run by NPR ombudsman and former Vice President Jeffrey Dvorkin, allegations that NPR relies heavily on conservative think-tanks[23] were denied. In his column, Dvorkin listed the number of times NPR had cited experts from conservative and liberal think tanks in the previous year as evidence. However, according to MediaMatters, a progressive media group, the numbers he reported indicate an overwhelmingly conservative bias. His own tally showed that 63% of NPR experts from think tanks came from right-leaning organizations while only 37% came from left-leaning organizations.[24]
In 2003, some critics accused NPR of being supportive of the invasion of Iraq.[25][26]
[edit] Allegations of liberal bias
A study conducted by researchers at UCLA and the University of Missouri found that while NPR is "often cited by conservatives as an egregious example of a liberal news outlet", "[b]y our estimate, NPR hardly differs from the average mainstream news outlet. Its score is approximately equal to those of Time, Newsweek and U.S. News & World Report and its score is slightly more conservative than The Washington Post's."[27] It did find NPR to be more liberal than the average U.S. voter of the time of the study and more conservative than the average U.S. Democrat of the time. Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting, a progressive media watchdog group,[28] also disputes the claim of a liberal bias.[29]
You expect a conservative to take the word of university professors over what his own ears hear? Still useful that somewhere out there is an alleged objective study claiming NPR is not biased. I have not stated "pull NPR's government money, as it raises more from public support. If I don't like the programing, I can change the channel. But if every channel has government control or subsidized broadcasts, changing the channel is not going to work.
The issue is that these are businesses, and they should not be supported by taxpayers dollars in any case. Should we subsidize the Wall Street Journal, the NYTimes, WashPost, etc? Nay, let them fail or produce something the public wants to buy. If the public doesn't want to buy what they are selling, why does government have to bail them out? Plus if government is controlling a cash flow, government will dictate certain dos and don'ts. I see that as a threat, as I do not trust any government run by anybody. I see it as an organic entity seeking to grow and control. This advance into the media is to my way of thinking, a most unwanted expansion of control.
What's Jeneane Garoffolo lookin' like these days? She used to appeal to me. Haven't seen her for a bit
(01-22-2010 02:17 PM)don bosco Wrote: [ -> ] (01-22-2010 09:43 AM)marsbennett Wrote: [ -> ] (01-22-2010 03:26 AM)jws Wrote: [ -> ]Here in the DC area, we get C-SPAN radio, which is great.
Other than that, I usually listen to NPR, which has a strong leftward bias, but much less so than it used to, and which generally has very interesting and informative programming(other than Diane Rehm, who should have retired long, long ago).
This post made me smile. I have a lefty friend with buyer's remorse on Obama that I call and leave voice mails in Diane Reem's voice. It's always edgy and timely for whatever is happening while exaggerating her sickeningness. I get responses every time I do it. I'm sure we both get a smile out of it.
"She has Spasmodic Dysphonia, a disease of the larynx which causes involuntary spasms of the muscles in the throat and larynx."
You generally seem kinder than that mars.
Hey, it ain't like I call her show and bust on her for her delivery.
I didn't know that information. It's really an inside sarcasm dripping joke at a friend who tried to pitch his NPR addiction to me. You may have just ruined the whole thing for me, Don.
Allright guys, lets get back on topic and quit sniping at each other please. And for the record, I never thought Air America had any interesting programming at all. I don't listen to any talking heads on the right or left.
(01-22-2010 04:43 PM)NCTM Wrote: [ -> ]Allright guys, lets get back on topic and quit sniping at each other please. And for the record, I never thought Air America had any interesting programming at all. I don't listen to any talking heads on the right or left.
on topic? I'm surprised they lasted this long. That is all.