... their readers appear to be endorsing Brown. If the seat left vacant by Ted Kennedy goes to Brown, it will mean the end of the NHC bill as well as sending a VERY clear message to Democrats. I sure hope MA gets it right... for once!
Story:
http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editor...ll#addComm
The voters of Massachusetts are among the very best educated voters in America. I have confidence they'll get it right more often than not. The naysayers can yelp and march, but progress always comes to America. Health care is ready for reform, and we are, too.
(01-14-2010 01:09 PM)sunnyheel Wrote: [ -> ]The voters of Massachusetts are among the very best educated voters in America. I have confidence they'll get it right more often than not. The naysayers can yelp and march, but progress always comes to America. Health care is ready for reform, and we are, too.
If they get it right, Brown will be their new Senator.
Any state that kept the likes of Kennedy in the Senate can't possibly be called "educated". Duped by a family name is a better description. FWIW, the MD public schools have just been recognized as the country's BEST.
Health care does need "reform" but what the present bills being "reconciled" between the HoR and Senate will do far more damage to this nation than any possible good. If the details are so damned wonderful, why has the whole process been done secretly? The answer is obvious: The details would cause even more protests than we've seen. It's possibly the absolute WORST bill of the past century and in November the voters will tell the Democrats that in no uncertain terms.
(01-14-2010 01:09 PM)sunnyheel Wrote: [ -> ]The voters of Massachusetts are among the very best educated voters in America. I have confidence they'll get it right more often than not. The naysayers can yelp and march, but progress always comes to America. Health care is ready for reform, and we are, too.
You're gonna get it all right. You'll have less supply and it will cost more...but hey, "reform" is a real nice word to toss around because at least you aren't saying the reform will be positive.
(01-14-2010 01:09 PM)sunnyheel Wrote: [ -> ]The voters of Massachusetts are among the very best educated voters in America. I have confidence they'll get it right more often than not. The naysayers can yelp and march, but progress always comes to America. Health care is ready for reform, and we are, too.
Hey - by the way - how's Massachuesetts health reform working out?
believe me, the people of MA could not care less about what people like stamp think about them.
The State of Masschusetts has very well educated people as John Adams made education a right in that State's Constitution, after failing to get the same provision in the federal effort.
I would be surprised if Coakly lost, despite her gaffe that there were no terrorists in Afghanistan. We shall have to wait to see how those voters evaluated having to pay for a federal health care plan while also paying for their own state effort. I suppose the state plan will blend into whatever the Dems get passed.
I will say those Mas voters did elect Mitt Romney so a Pub Senator is not impossible, just very unlikely!
And don't forget William Weld, another Rockefeller Republican (not to say that Mitt is/was, only that he played one during his campaign for governor).
Coakley has made more than one gaff. During a debate with Brown she said the election was for "the Kennedy seat" to which Brown replied that the seat belongs to the people of MA and NO ONE has their name on it.
Brown is a state Senator with experience while the best Coakley can do is tout her position as Attorney General prosecuting criminals. Just what the Senate needs: ANOTHER lawyer!
What I fully expect is for Democrats to make some charge against Brown with 24 - 48 hours remaining before the election.... charges that will prove to be without merit but designed to cost enough votes before anything can be refuted. Like the DWI charge against Bush, it'll be from someone who is not directly connected with the Democrat campaign. It's exactly the kind of dirty politics they play.
The controlling party of the Mass legislature will merely change the rules to favor a member of their party, like they have done a number of times. It is apparently lawful to rearrange laws pertaining to elections in Mass to favor the party in power!
(01-14-2010 05:27 PM)Stampeding Terp Wrote: [ -> ]Coakley has made more than one gaff. During a debate with Brown she said the election was for "the Kennedy seat" to which Brown replied that the seat belongs to the people of MA and NO ONE has their name on it.
Brown is a state Senator with experience while the best Coakley can do is tout her position as Attorney General prosecuting criminals. Just what the Senate needs: ANOTHER lawyer!
What I fully expect is for Democrats to make some charge against Brown with 24 - 48 hours remaining before the election.... charges that will prove to be without merit but designed to cost enough votes before anything can be refuted. Like the DWI charge against Bush, it'll be from someone who is not directly connected with the Democrat campaign. It's exactly the kind of dirty politics they play.
The moderator in one of the debates (Gergen) actually made the "Kennedy's seat" remark. The retort by Brown was well done.
Still, Coakley and her "Massachusettes" campaign staff leave something to be desired if they can do no better in the polling than a dead heat for the seat formerly held by Ted Kennedy. That one should be a gimme for the D's.
(01-14-2010 11:54 PM)Tagterp Wrote: [ -> ]The controlling party of the Mass legislature will merely change the rules to favor a member of their party, like they have done a number of times. It is apparently lawful to rearrange laws pertaining to elections in Mass to favor the party in power!
You're referring, of course, to the former change in law by a MA Legislature run by Democrats that called for a "Special Election" by voters to prevent a Republican Governor from appointing a replacement to a vacated seat in Congress. Then, most recently, the Democrats wanted to reverse themselves again to allow the present Democrat Governor to appoint a permanent replacement for Senator Kennedy.
I don't think it's what the Founders of this nation had in mind and a perfect example to justify those Founders who didn't trust political parties.
(01-14-2010 01:09 PM)sunnyheel Wrote: [ -> ]The voters of Massachusetts are among the very best educated voters in America. I have confidence they'll get it right.
enough said. i agree with you on this. let's see what happens.
Quote:Ken Pittman: Right, if you are a Catholic, and believe what the Pope teaches that any form of birth control is a sin. ah you don't want to do that.
Martha Coakley: No we have a seperation of church and state Ken, lets be clear.
Ken Pittman: In the emergency room you still have your religious freedom.
Martha Coakley: (...stammering) The law says that people are allowed to have that. You can have religious freedom but you probably shouldn't work in the emergency room.
Speaking of gaffes, you shouldn't work in an emergency room if you want your religious freedom?
http://www.weaselzippers.net/blog/2010/0...d7f65c970c
I'll take "gaffes" over pro-torture positions any day.
I realize this article is from a "little dinky local" newspaper, but those "little dinkys" are often a harbinger of events. There have ben other articles, concentrating mainly on a limited section of the state and I'll try to find more for you folks. Meanwhile:
[quote]President Barack Obama and the family of Edward M. Kennedy pushed yesterday to keep a Democrat in the late senator's seat and protect a 60th vote needed to pass the health care reform bill that would be Kennedy's legacy.
The stepped-up involvement of two Democratic powerhouses reflected the degree to which Obama's party is worried about a Massachusetts contest that just a week ago looked like a lock for Democrat Martha Coakley.
A Suffolk University poll released last night had Republican Scott Brown at 50 percent and Coakley at 46 percent, within the survey's 4.4-percentage-point margin of error.
The poll of 500 registered likely voters was conducted Monday through Wednesday and differed sharply from a Boston Globe survey released Sunday showing Coakley with a 15-point lead.
Stopping short of a visit to the state, Obama made his first foray into the Senate race, asking his political backers in an e-mailed video to support Coakley in what's become a competitive race.
Republicans cite recent polls in claiming momentum closing in on Tuesday's special election, and Democrats fear a loss could not only cost them the health care bill but the rest of the president's legislative agenda heading into critical midterm elections this fall.[/qipte]
http://www.capecodonline.com/apps/pbcs.d.../-1/NEWS01
(01-16-2010 07:32 AM)racecar Wrote: [ -> ]I'll take "gaffes" over pro-torture positions any day.
yeah. good point. coakley personally tortured the s[tuffing] out of three people back in the day.
let's review the "formidable" evidence
(01-14-2010 05:14 PM)sunnyheel Wrote: [ -> ]And don't forget William Weld, another Rockefeller Republican (not to say that Mitt is/was, only that he played one during his campaign for governor).
You are saying that a politician portrayed himself as something he was not? Well that almost never happens.
(01-14-2010 11:54 PM)Tagterp Wrote: [ -> ]The controlling party of the Mass legislature will merely change the rules to favor a member of their party, like they have done a number of times. It is apparently lawful to rearrange laws pertaining to elections in Mass to favor the party in power!
That same Venerable Adams mentioned just above knew a thing or two about constitutions and rights...see Alien And Sedition Acts for reference.
Lordy if this all out assault does not win the day for the right it is gonna hurt an awful lot. If it does the democrats will certainly have been bested. Stamp's probably right that democrats are holding cards close to their vest that they will spring at the last minute, making them particularly unaddressable due to time, that they believe will out-smear the right.
From the story linked by JD:
Quote:No less outraged, Superior Court Judge Isaac Borenstein presided over a widely publicized hearings into the case resulting in findings that all the children's testimony was tainted. He said that "Every trick in the book had been used to get the children to say what the investigators wanted." The Massachusetts Lawyers Weekly—which had never in its 27 year history taken an editorial position on a case—published a scathing one directed at the prosecutors "who seemed unwilling to admit they might have sent innocent people to jail for crimes that had never occurred."
Is THIS the woman you want to represent the state of MA in Washington just because she has a "D" by her name? That "D", in this instance, stands for a lot more than "Democrat". "Despicable" comes to mind, among other words.
I'd rather not have a rightist...that's the other side now isn't it? Would I vote for an honest man/woman with whom I disagreed completely because of their integrity alone.
No...would you?
I am noticing a sudden concern out of law and order statist right wing types for rights of the accused and convicted that just happens to coincide with a democratic former prosecutor running for a senate seat.
Things can return to normal on Wednesday.
Bahaha. I'm seeing pleading dems. commenting in some pages for everyone to 'come to their senses'. I think they have...perhaps en mass.