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(figgered you wouldn't mind the topic title change)

I'd say you should start with Old East and Old West, the Y, and go from there. Much more history rooted around central campus.

Vid's right...the oldest area of buildings and the like is between South Building and Franklin Street. One of my favorites is



La dona and I wanted to get married in that building but campus authorities said no can do...

The oldest historical item on campus would have to, however, be...



The Davie Poplar

Legend has it that it was on this spot that the founder of the university, William R. Davie, chose the spot...he tossed a switch he was using as a riding crop on the ground there and the tree sprung forth from the ground...

I wonder if a Frisbee tree has sprouted on the roof of Venable hall then?

donnie, any pics to be found of those cool lab windows on top? If not, maybe i can hire Vidz to do the job, eh? At one time, i had heard that it was coming down or would be greatly modified.

My favorite Frisbee golf hole ever... #4 on my campus course... you walk on the sidewalk from the Navy gun to the side of the Navy bldg and directly ahead of & below you is the service drive and the entrance to Venable which forms an arch over the service drive. The key is to try and position your tee shot on the drive as you must go thru the arch to play the hole. From there you have the choice of trying to skip or slide or make a regular throw under the arch. Next, the option is between throwing back up the steep incline to the sidewalk or continuing down the drive and going back up on your next shot.

I guess it's Gardner Hall directly ahead once you reach the sidewalk. The side door is the "hole" and it's a par 5 (very tough to par-- many other obstacles include trees along the sidewalk and the large ac unit and pit along the service drive). Several times i overthrew by hanging onto the disc too long and had to scramble onto the roof of Venable and even up ON the windows high above the classrooms below. Not sure i'd want my fatazz up on those these dayz. Liquor or Guinness is a must for this game.

that's some history, just not people in leggings and wigs-type history

Working on it...

From the other end...

Excellent!

the arch-passageway is a bit in shadow but that's where you go and then beyond, and up, past the shingles, the roof goes down to the lab skylight windows (pretty well re-inforced, but still high up)

maybe we'll turn this into the History/Frisbee golf challenge thread.... you game donnie?

I lived in Old East before it was restored. What a dump. But it sure was nice waking up at 7:50am for an 8:00am class!

Aren't they tearing Veneable down? I thought I read that they are. I got lost in that building the first time I tried to pass through it.

Quote:Image exceeds set limits.

That about sums it up for Venable. That building is/was a monster.

kidC: Do you play any of the disc golf courses in the Charlotte area? I've taken up the sport in the last year or so, and it's become a bit of a pastime for me. I'd be interested to get someone else's opinion of the courses in this area.

Go for it Kid...

I don't think Venable is long for this world...I taught in that building 2-3 years ago and they were doing zero repairs...

Hallway in Venable anyone?

eequalsmcsquared Wrote:I lived in Old East before it was restored.  What a dump.  But it sure was nice waking up at 7:50am for an 8:00am class!

I lived in it AFTER the renovation (131 - the window with the brick frame that sticks out on the parking lot side aka, the smallest double) and it was fantastic. Such an awesome experience and way too many memories.

That year, they had to re-do the hot water pipes and ripped open holes to the "basement". I never went down, but friends said it was pretty cool (some passages and old brick work probably as old as the bldg.).

Quote:October 12, 1793: The day the cornerstone of Old East was laid ...

"General William Richardson Davie, Revolutionary patriot, governor of North Carolina, and recipient of the University's first honorary doctor of laws degree, laid the cornerstone ... Sealed into the cornerstone that day by Davie's silver trowel was a commemorative plate reading 'The Right Worshipful William Richardson Davie, Grand Master of the most Ancient and Honorable Fraternity of Freemasons in the State of North Carolina, one of the trustees of the University of the said state ... assisted by the other commissioners and the Brethren of the Eagle and Independence Lodges, on the 12th day of October in the Year of Masonry 5793 and in the 18th year of the American Independence, laid the cornerstone of this edifice.'

The cornerstone was vandalized sometime between 1865 and 1875 and the commemorative plate was stolen. In 1916 it was discovered in a pile of scrap brass destined for melting at a foundry in Tennessee. The foundry's owner, who was an alumnus of UNC, recognizing the name Davie, had the plate cleaned and returned to its rightful place. The plate may be seen in the North Carolina Collection of the Louis Round Wilson Library."

"taught in that building 2-3 years ago and they were doing zero repairs..."

I taught in it 30 years ago and they were doing zero repairs. ;-)

LOL...

I couldn't even show a film or use an overhread projector because it was an afternoon class with the sun streaming in the window...but the blinds were shredded and some wouldn't even raise or lower.

Venable was born with progeria. By the mid-fifties, it seemed old.

Quote:I wonder if a Frisbee tree has sprouted on the roof of Venable hall then?

lol

JD: I have played at Kilborn a few times... also, several years ago over near the old Coliseum.. bit of a jungle that one. Apparently we also have on here on the Battlestar now as well. let's play; e-mail me if you still have it.

i play old skool (big surprise i know) with a 175g Ultimate disc, never cotttoned to those heavy little discs. I also enjoy making up courses if there is a big enough area to do that in.. have done some of that over in Latta Park in Dilworth. one thing that is interesting is being able to have targets that vary instead of baskets all the time.

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alrighty, don; away weeeeee go.

HOLE #1: starts at sidewalk just outside of KA house on Cameron (manhole cover) and the target is the sign (sign only, not pole) at the main driveway for the Carolina Inn, near the dining room. (Holes #1,2,3 and 18 are very traffic-oriented.) Made it a Par 4 for easiest birdie hole on the course.

accball1 is a big frisbee golfer ... he needs to see this thread ...

not a frisbee golfer, but very cool to hear what the 18 "holes" are made up of around campus, kidC. thnx

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alrighty, don; away weeeeee go.

HOLE #1: starts at sidewalk just outside of KA house on Cameron (manhole cover) and the target is the sign (sign only, not pole) at the main driveway for the Carolina Inn, near the dining room. (Holes #1,2,3 and 18 are very traffic-oriented.) Made it a Par 4 for easiest birdie hole on the course.

Is that the sign you're talking about Kid?

All this history, and no mention of Troll's bar?

Just started a thread just for you Doc...

my bad Don, incomplete description... you throw up Pittsboro Stree and the sign is hanging on a pole right past the Exit for the U entrance. the sign you posted is prbly officially at Main entrance on front lawn, i meant the parking/valet entrance.

HOLE #2 has likely been modified due to recent construction but you tee from the brick sidewalk immediately in front of Hole #1 and throw up Pittsboro St again.  The target is a telephone pole across (Raleigh? i don't think it's McCauley until it crosses?) road.  I think recently there was parking and maybe another building put there but I assume that the pole is there. Its not on the corner, about 15 yds down toward campus so you can get off the road with your second et.seq. shots into a grassy area. Can't recall the building there. :doh Miller Hall, accdg. to yon^ mappage (what's there?)Birdieable, but not easy, fairly long. Par 4.

Since Whitehead dorm is also shown i'll proceed with Hole #3. From Hole #2, cross back over the road to the brick sidewalk across from the pole. Looking down Raleigh[?] Rd. you have Whitehead Dorm down to the left, parking/construction? and ChiPhi house down to your right. Fairly major intersection at corner (Rt. to Pittsboro and HOspital area). You throw down the road or sidewalk and then have to deal with the trees, telephone wires and traffic and signals when you cross over the road to try and hit the Navy gun in front of the NROTC bldg. Very birdieable par 4 but many obstacles noted can make it much harder as well.

At least now, Holes 4-17 (the BEER HOLE, doc!) are on campus proper and the traffic only interferes on 8,9, 10 (Swain hall pkg lot) and 17, but much less so than on 1-3. You want to be 1/2 under after 3 b/c birdies are scarce until 12. if you can play the front 9 even or better, you've done pretty dang well.

OK this picture here is closer to your goal...



We'd need to back away some for you sign to appear...



Or get some altitude...

http://www.fpc.unc.edu/images/Constructi...290036.JPG

http://www.fpc.unc.edu/Construction/Proj...010007.JPG

Check out those two images there Kid...your pole may just be shown

They are big pictures though

The construction there is the new Global Education Center...woulda been my building if I hadn't left

The only pictures I can find of Hole #3 are rather political. I'll leave them off. None of them showed the Gun at any rate.

don bosco Wrote:Check out those two images there Kid...your pole may just be shown

that's pretty odd, no pics of the Gun. who knows what kind of gun it is?

LOL...guess it was there. Your pole that is.

amazingly enough, i blee that is IT right smack dab in the middle of the 2nd picture .... how odd that you can get a non-descript telephone poll and get skunked on the Navy gun

I think I might've found another pic o'yur pole

http://www.fpc.unc.edu/Construction/Proj...170005.JPG

By the way Kid...check this out:

Quote:to the UNC campus to fulfill The Master Plan. Those plans call for the demolition of the ROTC Armory in 2010-2012. All three ROTC units will move into their own free-standing three-story building, (approved in October 2005 by the BOT) which is to be built on South Campus. It will be located across from Ehringhaus Field on Ridge Road. Construction on this new building has not begun. Plans are for us to move directly from our present location into our new ROTC building in 2009.

New course by then

By the way...in several places the gun is referred to as a "battleship gun." Pretty technical stuff huh?

dang, the gun was a cool target, mebbe they'll at least leave a patch of grass there. that new GEB was pretty monstrous; hate to see such a big bldg taking away more of the precious little open space.

HOLE #4 described above.

HOLE #5 Teeing area is on brick sidewalk just forward of the steps to side door of Gardner towards Carroll and Hanes Halls. Target is fairly straight ahead, it is a lamppost inside corner of stone wall (surrounded by brick sidewalk) just outside of W entrance to Hanes Hall. Par 3. some sort of skip or low slide up the sidewalk is the best play to have shot at birdie or par. Few birdies and not as many pars as you might think at first sight. Large bushes on either side can cause problems and if you go for the birdie you may sail over the wall and have difficulty nailing the next shot.

You're out of the motor traffic but campus foot traffic is still a bit of an obstacle. Most people wanna pick it up and throw it back to you... class change is a beeyotch.

Wait a minute...I'm lost. Hole #4 is what?

Post #4 describes Hole #4.

FORE!!!!4

i'm going to take to naming them, a la Augusta

#1 Carolina Inn----- Par 4
#2 Pittsboro Rd----- Par 4
#3 Navy Gun--------- Par 4
#4 Arch------------- Par 5
#5 Hanes Lamp------- Par 3
#6 Wilson wall tree- Par 5

Hole #6 is a rollicking par 5 which is birdieable by the skillful player. Teeing area is on sidewalk above wall next to hole #5. Most effective shot is a low zinger or skidder down sidewalk to opposite end of Hanes Hall. once clear of the bldg, your options open up: Right down the sidewalk towards Dey Hall (and risk hearing some Parlez Vous) or leftward toward the open grassy area that surely has some fancy name. Sometimes you have a peace wall, sometimes you have outdoor classes, sometimes you have little ceremonies, but always you have the trees you have to throw around or under and possibly utilize some dissecting sidewalk for a skid or a skip.

Two skillful throws down (i prefer the Leftward route) can leave you with a mid-range birdie toss downhill. As you face Wilson library. there is a low stone wall running across the sidewalk from the steps/entrance. On the rightish side across from the bldg there is a tree just inside the wall which grows at a noticeable slant. A low skimmer has a chance to hit the considerable trunk or even skid/skip into it from the ground.

If you don't throw it fairly long, 4, 6 and 7 will be very tough holes for you and bogey should be considered a good score on these non-holed holes.

Quote:Just started a thread just for you Doc...

Best I can do is the East End of Hanes (there are shots of the front)



And of course you would be traversing in front of Carroll



Below is, I believe the door to Gardner...

Looks like those guys have detected incoming...

yup; both East end shots of Hanes and Gardner. The shot of Hanes would include the area from which you would hopefully be launching your second shot on #6 and that side of Gardner might see some traffic.

That dude in the orangypink is hearing one of my bird scramblers whistling in the boughs o'er head.

Prolly not gonna be much good here today...later

Quote:Hole #6 is a rollicking par 5 which is birdieable by the skillful player. Teeing area is on sidewalk above wall next to hole #5. Most effective shot is a low zinger or skidder down sidewalk to opposite end of Hanes Hall. once clear of the bldg, your options open up: Right down the sidewalk towards Dey Hall (and risk hearing some Parlez Vous) or leftward toward the open grassy area that surely has some fancy name. Sometimes you have a peace wall, sometimes you have outdoor classes, sometimes you have little ceremonies, but always you have the trees you have to throw around or under and possibly utilize some dissecting sidewalk for a skid or a skip.

Yeah...that "the open grassy area that surely has some fancy name," is Polk Place.

Here's your Dey Hall

Quote:Two skillful throws down (i prefer the Leftward route) can leave you with a mid-range birdie toss downhill. As you face Wilson library. there is a low stone wall running across the sidewalk from the steps/entrance. On the rightish side across from the bldg there is a tree just inside the wall which grows at a noticeable slant. A low skimmer has a chance to hit the considerable trunk or even skid/skip into it from the ground.

This was a tough pic to come up with but I think I've got it...



That your tree?  The lean is not apparent here.

Candid shot in the vicinity...know these guys?

i chased that longeared galoot on the right back down his hole one day with a zinging low-liner.

picture barely, barely captures part of the tree... there appears to be some straw around the base of the tree in the foreground and also on the back, bottom right where i believe you pick up a smidgen of the target tree

alrighty then, Hole #7 should be Polk Place then as you must now traverse it in its entirety to the steps at South Bldg. (i'll need to see a pic to let you know upper or lower set, believe it's lower; b/c, on a real golf course this hole would be called the sumpnernuther Monster for its prodigious uphill length).  The teeing area is the sidewalk just behind that low wall in the very middle section, directly facing South Bldg across the expanse of Polk Place.  This hole is where the Wingers can show out; only the strongest of throwers have the chance to sneak a birdie in with 3 nearly perfect throws.

Trees are not AS MUCH of a problem but still provide obstacles. You want to use what narrow swatches of sidewalk are available to you to your advantage here with hard skips or sliders where the opportunity presents itself.  It takes two very hard, straight throws (the tendency to overthrow and hang on brings the trees right very much into play) to get up to the flagpole area where you may now try and utilize the sidewalk for birdie or par attempt. Despite the very large target, 98% of golfers will be happy with par here.

NOTE: This hole might be the most affected by suing golf discs rather than the traditional, whamO or Ultimate disc. Â

Donnie, let's see if you can get us several views going back up PP to SB. I believe it's Bingham Hall to your right as you start up (across from Dey), then an open expance with Manning over to the Right (what's in it now)... then the Student Affairs (Steele?)Bldg at the Right top area (something else below it???) across from Hanes. Campus Y up to the Left IIRC. The imposing South Bldg at the top and I believe that Orangey Bldg above Steele is.... damn, had it and blanked..is that the old Playmakers? I had a History class in there (from Soloway), cool bldg and classroom.

[Gerrard / Gerard]??

Just wanted to pop in and say a couple of things here.
First, I've never played Frisbee golf, though the wonderful descriptiveness of kid's posts make me want to.
Second, it's shameful how much I've forgotten about the campus. I recognize all the names of the buildings and sites mentioned and so well pictured by don. I swear though, I'm having trouble recalling what is in relation to what and it was ALL so imprinted in the old memory banks at one time. Passing time takes its toll and because of that I'm very thankful for a thread like this one. I simply wanted to take the time to applaud both don bosco and kidC for their work here. You're a great team--work together almost like the wonderful naturalists of the past. The vivid nature of the text and the accomodation with photographs honestly leads me to believe that there could be some possibility of publishing this---seriously. No, we ain't talkin' best seller here but this is really good stuff and there is an audience. I almost have the feeling that I am witnessing living history making History come alive. Keep it up.

I speak for the masses below.

Thanks for the props biggie...Kid does have a way don't he?  There is a type of literature in Portuguese...basically painting with words.  Kid does it well and the vision is vivid and brings both the past and the present into focus. Â

Now...let's start on the right heading toward South Building. Â


{I believe they've caught Bingham Hall there during the brief period when Big Jim, the former proprietor of, wow, the name escapes me!, the drug store that was once above and to the left of The Cave, ...well we're not actually talking about Big Jim but his son, who was actually bigger but equally sleazy...well, he had a little orangeaid stand right there on campus...how he swung that I do not know} Remember? The Home of the Big O!?

Next down that side is Murphey Hall...these days you'll notice this Memorial to one fine Honorable Tar Heel (and ACC Champion)...



Instead of the standard outside shot, let's look inside of Murphey...who didn't do a DTH (or try) crossword puzzle in this room?


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Well...here's Saunders from the fairway...



I had a lot of classes over the years in Saunders. The KKK connection always bugs me a bit. Seems there oughta be some recognition, or better put, acknowledgment of that.

Now get ready



That's Steele in the top right corner. Good picture really with Playmakers, South Building and The Old Well.

Here's South Building with a bit of the feeling of the incline...

The Approach

Awesome Work there Don! (he's really doing all the work donchaknow? i'm just in my usual ramble)... forgot Murphey and Saunders...i even had a class or two at the Murph.

Hole 7 (Polk Place) really is a Leviathan... can't pinpoint it zackly but you have to be somewheres past the lampost (believe crosswalk is right there)in 2 to have a shot of skidding on the bricks to the base of the steps for bird. The slope on the first half of the hole from Wilson Library up to the middle of PP is much steeper than the remainder.

Your overview picture up there has a complete view of

HOLE #8 (Old Well).. Teeing area is just outside of that side entrance/exit of Playmakers (blee there's a cool old-fashioned light fixture right there.. you can actaully see the little dark spot above the door contrasted to the light background).

Target is the water fountain inside the Old Well. Some overhanging trees and the road to cross (Hope the bus doesn't intercept your tee shot). Large brick area surrounding the Well allows for the well-place shot to skid closer (many more bushes also await the errant toss.) All the polls surrounding the fountain make for a tricky progression to the Hole.

Craxy thing happened last time i played there... not only did i score my first ever Hole-In-One there, but managed to hit the fountain while someone was drinking from it. THAT was a FrizGolf moment made for framing. Folks around the Old Well just fall over themselves to throw your disc back atcha. We Frizzies are so misunderstood.

http://www.planroom.unc.edu/gis/Mapbody/...er=Current

Great somewhat interactive map there...

Gotta hit the road...back tomorrow prolly

Don's latest pics highlight prbly the key aspect of difficulty for this entire course. Very large, very full trees with many branches low enough to interfere with throws seeking maximum distance. For this reason, the player with the ability to throw fairly low and very hard will benefit for 2 reasons. (1) Avoiding the limbs and getting knocked to the side or straight down, cheating you of needed distance; (2) Utilizing sidewalks, roads, etc. for skips or slides to achieve more distance.

This is a bit of a Masters-styled course; most short throwers will only have a chance to contend if they are totally on their short game. It is not an easy thing to do to throw low and still achieve distance and the task promotes overthrowing which inevitably leads to bad results.

Good example of all this is HOLE #9 (Scuttlebutt):  From the Old Well, you now walk up the sidewalk along Cameron until you come to the intersection of the sidewalk leading to the main entrance of New West.  The Target is hopefully still there; it did survive the Razing of the Scuttlebutt :karma:  It is a [stone, IIRC] picnic table and you must hit the table part as benches don't count. This table is located near the intersection with Columbia St. but is surrounded by some bushes and not easily discerned if you don't know what you're looking for. (The Scuttlebutt used to be there on the Right of these 2[?] tables... table on left is the target)

Anyways, motor traffic is back in play here if you stray L off the sidewalk or choose to utilize the road for distance or position. I try to avoid going into it and try to throw a very low throw straight down the sidewalk to reach the driveway into the parking lot across from Phillips Hall.  Lots of foot traffic here as well calls for a hard throw in a short time frame. From there it opens up a bit and try and to get it into the grass just R of the sidewalk in front of Swain [? i think] Hall.  There are some large bushes ahead you must avoid and if you can get it down to the hedge you have a relatively simple chance at birdie.

If you have played the Front 9 in even par (37), you are pretty danged good. If you are under Par, you are schoolin'.  Holes 4-9 can take their toll on your control and 10 is not let-up. After 10 you have a few birdie holes to make up ground before the grueling finish of 16-18.

Quote:This is a bit of a Masters-styled course

You're killin' me here, kid, not that I didn't already recognize the Masters tie-in with the hole names. I swear to God I want to do this some day. I assume that in FrizGolf, like the one with clubs and balls and all, the best way to enjoy the round is to revel in the fact that you're outdoors in lovely surroundings.

Is handicapping part of this game--I would, uh, need help there.