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This is an excellent article on how the end of life planning(or Death Panels for you wingnuts), got into the Health Care Bill. Sadly, it looks like the White House will drop end of life consultations from the bill.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32687140/ns/...gton_post/
I could really get into this if they threw in a will, living trust, advanced financial and medical directives and a minimumization of estate taxes lawyer. I would also like my marital trust, my credit shelter trust and my QTIP, GST thrown in. However, do not touch my 5 X 5 powers.
(09-04-2009 09:14 AM)Terp7475 Wrote: [ -> ]I could really get into this if they threw in a will, living trust, advanced financial and medical directives and a minimumization of estate taxes lawyer. I would also like my marital trust, my credit shelter trust and my QTIP, GST thrown in. However, do not touch my 5 X 5 powers.

I have most all of these documents executed, yet the proposed bill insisted I had to see a counselor once every five years. Still removing this provision was stupidity at its finest.
Whose life are they planning to end?
Theirs if I have to go to one.
No, there are no death panels, like most everything in this administration and w/ democrat lefties in control of congress, it is an issue of getting the "foot in the door" via a [snicker] social crisis. ID the crisis, and Big Bruddah bubbament is there to solve the ills. But, let's do it slowly and subtley so the sheeple won't notice.

Sorta like social security, income tax, etc. Starts off innocently enough and then it grows to be a cancer on the nation.

In otherwords, no, there are no death panels, etc. And Palin was wrong to assert it. But like most things in life, the truth lies somewhere in the middle. Trouble for the democratic congress, this issue is like being "half pregnant" and the American people don't trust them.

>>>And El Linko to the truth being somewhere in the middle<<<<

"Nudging" (quote from the link) folks to death is as bad as a panel. The intent is there.
(09-04-2009 09:54 PM)Tagterp Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-04-2009 09:14 AM)Terp7475 Wrote: [ -> ]I could really get into this if they threw in a will, living trust, advanced financial and medical directives and a minimumization of estate taxes lawyer. I would also like my marital trust, my credit shelter trust and my QTIP, GST thrown in. However, do not touch my 5 X 5 powers.

I have most all of these documents executed, yet the proposed bill insisted I had to see a counselor once every five years. Still removing this provision was stupidity at its finest.

The provision to see a counselor is voluntary. Out of all the ideas being bounced around about health care reform, this is one of the few ideas that actually could save money and help people face the end of their lives with a little dignity. I'll never forget that after my wife was told that her 88 year old father, who had just had a heart attack and wasn't supposed to live 48 hours,another doctor came in and asked her permission to give him a prostate biopsy.
(09-05-2009 09:16 AM)TimTerpT Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-04-2009 09:54 PM)Tagterp Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-04-2009 09:14 AM)Terp7475 Wrote: [ -> ]I could really get into this if they threw in a will, living trust, advanced financial and medical directives and a minimumization of estate taxes lawyer. I would also like my marital trust, my credit shelter trust and my QTIP, GST thrown in. However, do not touch my 5 X 5 powers.

I have most all of these documents executed, yet the proposed bill insisted I had to see a counselor once every five years. Still removing this provision was stupidity at its finest.

The provision to see a counselor is voluntary. Out of all the ideas being bounced around about health care reform, this is one of the few ideas that actually could save money and help people face the end of their lives with a little dignity. I'll never forget that after my wife was told that her 88 year old father, who had just had a heart attack and wasn't supposed to live 48 hours,another doctor came in and asked her permission to give him a prostate biopsy.

Yep!
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